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Al’s Corner October – Vote NO on Measure Q – Or “Spend On!”

OutputOpen to all topics of course, but this month we'll focus on cutting off the City Council's allowance money!

 

 

 

To highlight this month's primary topic, here is my testimony sing-a-long from last night's City Council meeting (2 minutes):

Here are the lyrics:

Spend On (sung to the tune of "Dream On" by Aerosmith)

Every time that I look at the budget
All these lines on the books, they try to fudge it
The money's gone
It went by like a unwatered lawn
Isn't that the way?
The City always spends more than it can pay, yeah

I know, nobody knows
Where the money comes and where the money goes
I know it's the City Council’s sin
You've got overspend in order to win

[ kazoo bridge ]

Half the spending is on bottomless budget pages
Ladder trucks, zip lines and climate changes
You know it's true, oh . . .
All this spending, come back to you

Spend with me, Spend through the years
Spend on the soccer field, and on housing crisis fears
Spend with me, not just for today
Maybe tomorrow, the good Lord will take the City Debt, away

But until then . . .

Vote No, Vote No, Vote No
Vote No on Measure Q!

Vote No, Vote No, or Spend On!  Spend On!
Vote No!, Vote No!, Vote No! – Waaaaaaaaa-oooooooo!

[ kazoo piano fade ]

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46 responses to “Al’s Corner October – Vote NO on Measure Q – Or “Spend On!””

  1. Ron O

    From what I’ve seen/heard on the Internet, you could conceivably get Steven Tyler (from Aerosmith) himself to sing this. Or at least, an AI version of him.

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  2. Ron O

    I have some questions regarding the cartoon. What, exactly, is sticking out from that guy’s head? Is that his ear, resulting from wedging-in the sign between his head and his ear? And why is there (what appears to be a curved wooden stick) emanating from this guy’s sportscoat, with no visible means of attachment?
    And what happened to one of his feet? As well as one of the other guy’s hands?
    And why does the “other” guy have a dark spot on his ear?
    I’m not even going to ask what “sallveneing” means.
    I’m afraid to ask if the problem is with “me”, or the drawing.

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  3. Alan C. Miller

    Al’s Corner uses A.I. to generate it’s illustrations. Mostly to illustrate how wonderfully awful they are 😐
    Of course, this is new technology that will probably, literally, eat us for dinner some day. But in between then and now, it will probably get scary better and put a lot of people out of work. Then comes cannibalism, then A.I. eats the human race.

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  4. Ron O

    The “tech bros” behind the proposed city in Solano county used the same technique (AI-generated images of their future utopia). But for now, I understand they’ve dropped their proposal. (Probably not for long.)
    But at least you’ve confirmed that the problem is not with “me”, as I was starting to get worried. Hopefully, “Hal 9000” will agree that I’m not a threat (reference to “2001”).

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  5. Keith

    “I’m not even going to ask what “sallveneing” means.”
    I had no idea and I wasn’t going to ask either.
    But I did look up “shibboleths”. LOL

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  6. Ron O

    But I did look up “shibboleths”. LOL
    I had to look up that one, too (some time ago). Obviously, use of an obscure word like that demonstrates superior intelligence compared to anyone else. As a result, “Hal 9000” will probably be on the hunt for those type of people, first.

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  7. Ron O

    Regarding Proposition 5 on the upcoming ballot, does anyone know if it requires a supermajority vs. a simple majority to be approved? I’m not finding that information online so far.
    Davis’ own Cecilia Aguiar-Curry is apparently behind this measure.
    I can see that it would likely/subsequently lead to approval of infrastructure intended to accommodate growth, as well as Affordable housing forced into cities and neighborhoods that don’t want it.
    Overall, it’s the latest attempt to undermine Proposition 13.
    This type of measure is far more impactful (in a negative manner) than the proposed sales tax increase for Davis.

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  8. Tuvia ben Olam DBA Todd Edelman

    Alan: I propose that the proportion of commenters who populate your comments are as close as possible to an approximate representation of the owners/renters divide in Davis.
    If for no other reason, imagine if you do this and do it well! How would the Davis Vanguard feel about that?
    Ron O: About the Solano project being canceled or delayed Don’t sell your gasoline company shares just yet!
    Starting construction shortly will be three huge car dependent projects. Two of them to the Northeast and East of Sacramento and another in West Sacramento.

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  9. Alan C. Miller

    TE say: “I propose that the proportion of commenters who populate your comments are as close as possible to an approximate representation of the owners/renters divide in Davis.”
    I’ll get right on that 😐

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  10. Ron O

    Alan: I propose that the proportion of commenters who populate your comments are as close as possible to an approximate representation of the owners/renters divide in Davis.
    For what it’s worth, my views have been consistent regardless of my living situation over the years.
    Renters and homeowners are often the same people, over the years. And any costs assigned to property are ultimately included in rent.
    But what I do find odd is how some (not you) seem to advocate for higher costs for homeowners, while simultaneously/ultimately attempting to be one, themselves.
    Similar to those who bemoan the cost of housing (and deride “NIMBYs” for supposedly protecting their property values), while simultaneously advocating for the “next round” of homeowners to have a chance to “build equity”.
    I guess this is best described as a combination of personal envy combined with personal ambition.
    Of course, a lot of the younger generation are in direct line to inherit property over the next few decades. At which point, a new generation of “NIMBYs” will be created, who will also complain about density, as well as taxes, insurance, etc. (Which are closing in, and sometimes surpassing the cost of renting.) Of course, a lot of the younger generation already knows this.
    “Never trust anyone over 30.”
    Then again, the country itself is not growing very fast anymore. Fewer people having kids, and those that do have smaller families. Which is probably already impacting the housing market.
    Ron O: About the Solano project being canceled or delayed Don’t sell your gasoline company shares just yet!
    Starting construction shortly will be three huge car dependent projects. Two of them to the Northeast and East of Sacramento and another in West Sacramento.
    That’s for sure. Aguiar-Curry, Wiener, Newsom and Bonta must be proud. And as far as gasoline itself is concerned, why does Newsom advocate for reducing/eliminating usage, while also attempting to get gas prices lowered? Seems like he isn’t aware of the supply/demand model (when prices rise, demand is reduced). That’s why some say that the “solution to high prices is higher prices”.

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  11. Keith

    “I’ll get right on that :-|”
    Shall we fill out a questionnaire in order to comment on Al’s Corner? LOL

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  12. Roberta L. Millstein

    I kept hoping that someone else would come along to correct this howler of a comment on the VG, but no one has:
    “It’s not like it’s going to adversely effect little business that Davis has…what’s another penny on a student’s purchase of coffee or a burrito?”
    Ahem. The tax isn’t ONE CENT IN TOTAL, the tax is ONE CENT ON EVERY DOLLAR, i.e., 1%. So, let’s say that you buy a $10 burrito — the tax would then be 10 cents. But this is in addition to the tax that Davis already levies, so the total Davis tax on that burrito is now 20 cents (2%).
    Maybe that doesn’t seem like a lot to some, but it can add up, especially for big-ticket items.
    In any case, it isn’t one cent.

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  13. Alan C. Miller

    RM, agree. And how about the tax on a new car! We could subsidize a small apartment to be ‘affordable’ for a month on that. Or solve .000000000000001% of global warming through the Davis CAN (NOT) or Cool (-ish) Davis (-ish) programs.

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  14. South of Davis

    Hanlees Toyota in South Davis has a Sequoia on the website with an $82,985 price.
    https://www.hanleesdavistoyota.com/inventory/new-2025-toyota-sequoia-capstone-4wd-capstone-hybrid-7svaaaba7sx049306/
    Next time someone says “the tax will add just a penny” point out that it will add $829.85 to the price of a Toyota SUV (giving Davis a full 2% or $1,659.70 – more than I paid for my first car in High School). P.S. One of my “follow the science” friends pointed out that since Davis banned plastic straws we have not had any hurricanes, while the red states full of “climate deniers” that still allow plastic straws have been hit multiple times. We can thank the “Cool Davis” people next time we see them for protecting us from Hurricanes (that need warm water to start).

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  15. Ron O

    So today, David notes that mortgage payments have significantly risen throughout the region (including in “fast growth” towns) since 2020. And yet, he somehow manages to avoid attributing that to rising interest rates (or even mentioning that at all).
    In that same article, David claims that housing prices are preventing the city’s revenues from increasing. And yet, somehow manages to avoid noting that property taxes are based upon selling price – meaning that the higher the sales price, the higher the taxes that are collected. (Not including the annual 2% increase.)
    Finally, he claims that housing prices are holding back employees from moving to the region, while failing to note that developments such as Woodland’s “research park” (that “escaped” from Davis years ago) still hasn’t even broken ground. Despite adding 1,600 housing units during that “move”.
    This, my friends, is an example of the type of reporting the Vanguard puts forth.

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  16. Ron O

    So, I already knew this to be the case – but all 3 candidates for council seem to think it’s the city’s responsibility to grow, so that the school district doesn’t have to right-size itself. (Reference to today’s Vanguard article.)
    I don’t know why this type of view prevails, without the citizenry rejecting the basic concept.
    This is largely where the claims of a “housing crisis” originate from. It’s not a housing crisis, it’s a school management crisis. And it’s not the city’s responsibility to run the school system. (I believe they have a “guy for that”, as well as its own elected board members.)

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  17. Keith

    Ron, a school district should size itself to serve the actual student population of the city. It shouldn’t be the city that has to grow to serve a bloated school system.

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  18. South of Davis

    Even if Davis doubles in size it is going to have to reduce the size of the school district.
    I don’t see this trend changing anytime soon (Google found):
    “The nation’s fertility rate has generally declined since 1957 when there were 122.9 births per 1,000 women ages 15–44. Preliminary 2022 data shows the fertility rate was less than half this, at 56.1”
    In addition to the overall trend of people having less kids in the US, CA kids today are having WAY less kids. Most of my friends have kids in their 30’s and I don’t have a single friend that has a grandkid. Trans women may be “real woman” (and real good in sports) but they are not having lots of kids anytime soon. I’m guesing that close to 1 in 5 of the kids of my friends “identify” as something LGTB+.
    Google found:
    “In California, 13.6% of adults between the ages of 18 and 24 identify as LGBT”
    Since I don’t personally know anyone that lives in the foothills and hunts, any Christian homeschooling families or Catholic Latino families I bet my 20% number is close (or even a little low) for my friends that mostly have advanced degrees (and a “Davis is for Everyone” sign in the front yard).

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  19. Ron O

    So today, David is again bringing up the attention regarding Gloria Partida’s prior conviction, in regard to her 2022 campaign. And is claiming (like Will Arnold did) that it was a possible “race-baiting” tactic.
    I would actually agree that it was (race baiting), but in the opposite manner suggested by David and Will Arnold. That is, the uncovering of the conviction was then used as a campaign tactic by Gloria’s supporters. (Actually, Will Arnold went further than that, regarding his claims.)
    As I recall, the issue was one of disclosure, and/or possible disqualification from holding office in the first place. But as it turned out, the court’s website did not accurately reflect the subsequent actions which reduced the charge, and (as a result) did not require Gloria to disclose it. (Something like that.)
    I don’t know who spends their time looking up criminal records of candidates in the first place, but candidates do have to address anything uncovered (regardless of their skin color). “People of color” do not get a “pass” on that.
    But perhaps the most outrageous claim that David (and as I recall, Gloria to some degree) made is that this was a “family matter”, which would imply that the court system had “no business” in pursuing charges in the first place. In other words, blaming the system for the conviction.

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  20. Alan C. Miller

    A headline in today’s Davis Vanguard:
    “Democrats Support Yes on Q”
    In other news: “Sun hot”
    So, ‘Democrats’ support unchecked, agenda-driven, out-of-geographic-scope, runaway spending. Some of them do.
    But since when was it OK to leave out the word ‘SOME’ ? As in, ‘SOME Democrats support measure Q’, or SOME Jews are self-declared ‘antizionists’ who think Isreal should stop being mean and stop attacking Hamas and Hezbollah and just suck it up and take it with no military response.
    Nope, now if one “WHITE” person hurts a person of color, you can just say in your headline: “White people hurt people of color”.
    Well, yes: SOME do.

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  21. Ron O

    From today’s Vanguard (quoting Dillan Horton) regarding the effort to gut Measure J:
    Since its creation, only one housing project in South Davis (which primarily targeted university students) received Measure J voter approval.
    Seems that Dillan has forgotten about WDAAC/Bretton Woods.
    Despite its (Nishi’s) passage four years ago, construction has yet to begin.
    The obstacle has nothing to do with Measure J.

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  22. South of Davis

    ACM wrote:

    if one “WHITE” person hurts a person of color, you can just say
    in your headline: “White people hurt people of color”.
    A friend with kids at Davis High recently told me that his kids actually joke about “systemic racism” in Davis since almost everyone that teaches at Davis High hates white people and they really hate Jewish white people and he said that they seem to hate white Jews (even secular non-religious Jews that could not find Israel on a map) talking about then WAY wose than our High School and College teachers talked about the white South African Afrikaners in the 80’s…

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  23. Alan C. Miller

    Gee, SOD, that’s not the least bit disturbing. Maybe the teachers can team up with the Imam who declared that all Jews should be killed, and they can have their own mini-Davis-holocaust.
    But seriously . . . actually that was serious . . . but to the point, those are some major accusations, and rather general, and rather ‘a friend’s kids said’, and rather non-specific as to what has been said — and that makes me uncomfortable with any time others classify speech as for, in this example, Jew hatred, without saying what has been said, specifically.
    I am not not not asking for names — but when you say Jew hating comments have been made by Davis teachers — what was actually said, and seriously, this can’t be ‘all teachers’, but it shouldn’t be any teachers, so when you say “Davis High” seems to “hate Jewish white people”, like what percentage or number of teachers/administrators are we talking about here? And what has actually been said?
    I am both disturbed by the depth of your friend’s kid’s accusations and honestly I doubt “Davis High” ‘hates white Jews’ as a whole. But if there is any Jew Hatred going on and being passed on to students, that is a serious problem that needs to be addressed. And if that Jew hatred is actually so ingrained in the schools that it becoming ‘systemic’ then we’ve got “trouble, right here in Putah City”.
    So please, without naming names publicly, what has been said? And if you need to ask your friend to ask their kids, please do so. I neither want false accusations here on this blog, nor do I want any actually bigotry being taught in our schools — to children — to be swept under the rug or brushed off as ‘antizionism’.

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  24. Keith

    The uproar from the left over the Washington Post, LA Times and now USA Today not endorsing a candidate is hilarious. They are losing subscribers and employees are quitting. Let’s get it straight, it’s not about these leftist news organizations not endorsing a candidate, it’s about them NOT ENDORSING KAMALA.
    They were never ever going to endorse Trump so that was never in play.

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  25. Keith

    Maybe this is a Come-To-Jesus Moment where biased liberal media are realizing they’re becoming irrelevant. Maybe they will try to be more center based in their reporting. I hope that’s the case, but it might just be that Kamala is such a terrible candidate that not even WAPO, the LA TIMES and the USA Today can endorse her.
    ” The hard truth: Americans don’t trust the news media” by Jeff Besos
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/10/28/jeff-bezos-washington-post-trust/

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  26. Keith

    I just want to say thank you to the Davisite, Roberta and Alan for posting my comments.
    I tried to post a similar comment to the Vanguard but was denied and never received a reason why even though I asked.

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  27. Roberta L. Millstein

    Let’s be clear about what happened with these newspapers: the editorial boards voted unanimously to endorse Kamala Harris, at least for WaPo and LA Times (I haven’t followed up on USA Today yet). Those decisions were overridden by the wealthy owners of the paper. So this should not be celebrated by anyone who supports freedom of speech or freedom of the press, or who is concerned about excessive corporate influence in politics. These are things that should be condemned by both the left and the right.

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  28. Keith

    So Roberta, the wealthy owners of these media giants have oversaw publications that have been left biased and in the Democrat’s pocket. So do you also think that should that not be celebrated?

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  29. Roberta L. Millstein

    I don’t agree that those publications were left-biased, and I certainly have seen no evidence that they were “in Democrat’s pocket,” whatever that is supposed to mean. The papers certainly operated independently of the Democratic Party and were never controlled by the Democratic Party.

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  30. Roberta L. Millstein

    And while you are asking direct questions, Keith, let me ask you: Would you say that those decisions by the owners were a violation of freedom of speech and freedom of the press, and that they represent corporate interference in politics?

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  31. Keith

    “I don’t agree that those publications were left-biased”
    Wapo, the LA Times and USA Today all lean left according to the Allsides media bias chart.

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  32. Keith

    Here’s the chart:
    https://www.allsides.com/media-bias/media-bias-chart

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  33. Ron O

    Would you say that those decisions by the owners were a violation of freedom of speech and freedom of the press, and that they represent corporate interference in politics?
    1. No. Violation of freedom of speech/press generally refers to attempts by a separate entity or individual to shut down speech (especially by the government). In this case, the decision was apparently initiated “within” the organization itself.
    2. Yes – corruptive influence of interests.
    I don’t agree that those publications were left-biased, and I certainly have seen no evidence that they were “in Democrat’s pocket,” whatever that is supposed to mean.
    I would disagree with your first conclusion (regarding the LA Times, not familiar with the other source).
    But didn’t you just claim above that there’s “corporate interference” involved with such decisions? (Corporate interference, as you put it, is a hallmark of both political parties and throughout politics.)

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  34. Alan C. Miller

    KO say: “I just want to say thank you to the Davisite, Roberta and Alan for posting my comments.”
    Thumbs up
    KO say: “I tried to post a similar comment to the Vanguard but was denied and never received a reason why even though I asked.”
    Business as usual at the V.
    I had a dream Monday morning (seriously) that I was in a public room with David Greenwald. DG seemed in a bad mood. I asked him why and he said his fundraiser fell quite a few tickets short of even breaking even on the costs. I wasn’t actually bothered by this, but felt bad for DG and expressed ‘personal empathy’ to him for how he must feel about that.
    Occasionally I have dreams that are like messages from other people, and I can’t help but wonder . . .
    . . . but then again a more important question is, should I see a psychologist regarding why I had a dream with David Greenwald in it? I may be in need of some serious psychoactive medications.
    (Full disclosure: I really did have this dream, and no, I have no F-ing idea how the Vanguard’s “fundraiser” went.)

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  35. Keith

    “I had a dream Monday morning (seriously) that I was in a public room with David Greenwald.”
    I’ve never had a dream about the Vanguard or David Greenwald. But if I ever did I’m sure it would be more of a nightmare than a dream. 🙂

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  36. Alan C. Miller

    KO, I saw that joke coming a mile down Main Street (as Letterman used to say).

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  37. Roberta L. Millstein

    Ron wrote,
    Violation of freedom of speech/press generally refers to attempts by a separate entity or individual to shut down speech (especially by the government). In this case, the decision was apparently initiated “within” the organization itself.
    That may be how the terms are generally used, but I think you’re splitting hairs. There is a longstanding practice in this country of allowing journalists/op ed writers free rein to publish, as long as claims are supported (at least with witnesses), no slander, etc. In this case it was opinion — and not just of one person, but of the whole board. It is a big deal that the owners squelched that, and the reasons given seem pretty transparent. The owners simply didn’t like Kamala Harris being endorsed. That’s not acting like a real, reputable newspaper that supports freedom of speech and freedom of the press. (I’m not referring to the legal meanings of those terms here).
    2. Yes – corruptive influence of interests.
    I’m glad we agree on that point.
    But didn’t you just claim above that there’s “corporate interference” involved with such decisions? (Corporate interference, as you put it, is a hallmark of both political parties and throughout politics.)
    I’m not sure what you’re saying. Yes, there is widespread corporate influence in both parties (and that’s a problem). And yes, there was corporate interference when these owners prevented the endorsements of their staff from being published in their newspapers. That doesn’t mean that the Democratic Party controls the newspapers. Again, I’ve seen no evidence of that and never even heard anyone claim that before.

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  38. Ron O

    That may be how the terms are generally used, but I think you’re splitting hairs. There is a longstanding practice in this country of allowing journalists/op ed writers free rein to publish, as long as claims are supported (at least with witnesses), no slander, etc.
    I hadn’t heard of that practice, but there is no such thing as “freedom of speech” if your employers say so (e.g., outside of the university system). At least, while on the job. Employers even exhibit some control regarding what you say OUTSIDE of your employment to some degree. That is, if you want to stay employed (or get hired somewhere). See “cancel culture” (or Mr. Pickles, locally).
    In contrast, what the local librarian attempted was a clear violation of freedom of speech. And one would think that a librarian (in particular) would understand that in advance, which makes that incident even more surprising. Not to mention the lack of reaction to it, by some who simply don’t like what was said. An everyday term/description that almost all of us still use freely, for that matter.
    Honestly, it seems like some people these days (not you) don’t understand what freedom of speech means.
    It “used to be” that the ACLU understood it.

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  39. Alan C. Miller

    What fries my arse is Facebook “suspending” Beth Bourne. Yes, it’s a private company, but so clearly far-left leaning. I don’t particular agree with arf of what BB says, and I think she has some good points and a lot of bad ones, and I also think many of her tactics are somewhere between stupid and vile. But I also believe everyone’s ideas should be out there for debate. Yes, even Nazis. That’s why I’m a “Skokie Jew”. Let the ideas be seen and let the evil ones show their faces and march. More evil than bad ideas is trying to shut them down, and those who report BB to Facebook are more evil than any ideas BB has. Oh, and Facebook itself, also evil, the face of evil.
    Another thing I don’t believe in is freedom for cowards to protest from behind a mask.

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  40. Roberta L. Millstein

    I hadn’t heard of that practice, but there is no such thing as “freedom of speech” if your employers say so (e.g., outside of the university system). At least, while on the job. Employers even exhibit some control regarding what you say OUTSIDE of your employment to some degree. That is, if you want to stay employed (or get hired somewhere). See “cancel culture” (or Mr. Pickles, locally).
    I think you are running together the legal right of freedom of speech (which, I agree, was not violated here) with the principle of freedom of speech more generally (which was, I am claiming, violated). More to the point, I think what you don’t realize is the history of journalistic practice in this country and the importance that a free press in a democracy is given. Mr. Pickles is very different from a news outlet in this regard. Mr. Pickles feeds us, but it is not trying to inform us, to be a watchdog, to get us to think — whereas those are roles that news outlets are supposed to play. A news outlet isn’t just any other business. And it plays a special role a democracy (or it is supposed to) because people cannot participate in governing their country if they are not informed, if they don’t know what their governments are doing, if they are not prompted to think. So when a corporate entity squelches a journalist’s speech, they are squelching the very purpose that the newspaper is supposed to serve, and preventing it from playing a useful role.
    Let me give an example that I think you’ll relate to. I think many of us would agree that there was a time that the Vanguard played a critical, watchdogs, informative role. But in the last bunch of years, it seems like more of a lapdog to developers and other funders than a watchdog. It is thus no longer serving the role that a news outlet is supposed to serve. In that case, it’s David’s outlet, so yes, David can do what he likes (although I would hope he would not squelch the speech of those who wrote for him). And it’s a small operation. But the Washington Post, the LA Times, and to a lesser extent, USA Today, are major, longstanding, respected news outlets. For them to become mere corporate mouthpieces basically means that they are no longer real news outlets. Now, someone might say, this is just one incident. But it’s a major incident regarding one of the most controversial elections of our time, and once an owner has intervened like that, why should we trust anything produced by that paper? Why not just think the whole thing is one big corporate shill?
    Anyway, I hope you can see that I am genuinely trying to explain why this is a really big deal, and why it’s something we should all condemn in the strongest terms, regardless of political party. It is important that journalists be allowed to speak freely (within the constraints given above).

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  41. Keith

    “But it’s a major incident regarding one of the most controversial elections of our time, and once an owner has intervened like that, why should we trust anything produced by that paper? ”
    I haven’t trusted anything out of those papers for a long time. Besos says it best:
    “In the annual public surveys about trust and reputation, journalists and the media have regularly fallen near the very bottom, often just above Congress. But in this year’s Gallup poll, we have managed to fall below Congress. Our profession is now the least trusted of all. Something we are doing is clearly not working.”
    Maybe you trust them Roberta because they’re coming from a left biased point of view.

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  42. Ron O

    Why not just think the whole thing is one big corporate shill?
    Too late – I already think that.
    I’m ready to dig up Walter Cronkite, but I might already be too jaded to accept everything his team put forth, as well.
    Or, it could be that I’m just too smart for my own good. (Yeah, that’s probably it.) 🙂
    Hearst was also known for biased journalism, as I recall. So perhaps none of this is really “new”.
    But it somehow seems ironic that the Internet has made news sources “worse”.

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  43. Keith

    “Since it endorsed Jimmy Carter in 1976, the Post has endorsed Democrats in presidential elections, and has never endorsed a Republican for president in the general election”.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Washington_Post

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  44. South of Davis

    I’m guessing that Roberta grew up reading newspapers and magazines like I did. As a kid I read multiple papers every day and at least a dozen magazines every month. My Dad subscribed to both Mother Jones and the National Review in the 70’s and let me know that one leaned left and the other leaned right but they both seemed to make an effort to be journalists and report the truth (even with a little partisan spin). I’m sad that newspapers are dying, but they have not been “respected news outlets” for decades and most will just continue along as PR Machines for the people that own them tricking a number of prople (that gets smaller every year) into thinking that they have anything to do with the historical “respected news outlets” with the same name.
    P.S. Bari Weis give a good summary of the current situation in print media:
    https://www.bariweiss.com/resignation-letter
    P.P.S. As I have posted many times I am no fan of Trump and think he is not just a blowhard but an actual “narcissistic sociopath” but unlike what virtually every mainstream media outlot has been saying for the past three days I don’t think he is a facist because he held a rally at a building with the same name as a building where actual facists had a rally
    https://babylonbee.com/news/can-you-spot-all-10-signs-of-fascism-in-this-photo-of-trumps-rally

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  45. Roberta L. Millstein

    I don’t disagree that newspapers and news outlets more generally have been getting worse and worse overall, and more and more corporate controlled, over time. This is just so blatant that it feels like a death blow. It’s like they’re not even trying to hide it anymore.

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  46. Keith

    “It’s like they’re not even trying to hide it anymore.”
    That’s how much of America feels about a majority of the media’s left wing bias, they’re not even trying to hide it anymore.

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