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Al’s Corner August – “Vanguard News Group” New Website Still Sucks

B06d68e7-1808-4726-a1a3-c4b40600b925After years and years of anticipation and false promises of 'any day now' going back years, the 'Vanguard News Group' new website landed last week with a 'plop', like the sound of a human turd dropping on a San Francisco sidewalk.  I honestly wanted it to be better, but it wasn't.  In some ways it was worse.  Why spend so much time to get it right, and then roll out something that is less functional and still has many of the problems of the old site?

The old site was bad and getting worse.  It would load so slowly it would often time out.  The site used massive RAM memory that would drain a laptop battery.  The pages would skip while you were reading them, and then when you went back (if you could find where you were), the page would skip again. 

Towards the end the site had some sort of virus/malware that would cause the page to spontaneously skip to unwanted ad pages, and it would replace the recent history with six steps of the same ad page address with the original address eliminated.  Usually it was unwanted ads, or Bing, for some reason.  A couple of times it was straight up porn.  Without giving it in full the domain address it skipped to once began with "https://da.check-tl-ver-176-2.com/my-adult-video/ . . . ".   This should have been stopped at once, but it happened 2-3 times.

One piece of good news, the new site hasn't spontaneously skipped to ads or porn or replaced the short-term history.  It has, however, had the same loading issues and even said, "The site you are trying to reach is taking too much memory and is slowing down your browser.  Would you like to leave?".  It also still spontaneously skips text as it is trying to load text, and still does it again when you go back.  Others have told me this was the worst part of the old site to them as well, and it's amazing DG rolled out the new site without fixing this.

Certain things about the new site are worse:  It's too plain.  While the old site had too much color, it would have been nice to have kept the old color scheme, just as borders and highlight, but it's just plain with no character.  For some reason, the "Davis Vanguard" livery is replaced with "Vanguard News Group".  Like so many things with the Vanguard, I'm sure this has some meaning to DG, but to the common person it's just confusing. 

There is no ability to click on comments so you have to scroll through the whole article to reach them.  Honestly, the so-called articles are so often dull and predictable and/or copied from elsewhere, so I'd often read the comments first or don't read the article at all.  Having to scroll to comments, if there are any at all, which increasingly there are not, is just more than I feel like doing.  In addition, there is no 'new comments' box, so you'd have to keep track of each article and keep clicking on it to see if anyone added a new comment.  And again, that's more than me or most people are willing to do.  And as people learn that no one knows they posted a new comment, they won't bother to post at all.

The banner at the top only hides one article at a time, and it moves at a weird rate, and it's too big and obscures to those not familiar that the most recent news is below.  The articles are still repetitive crap on housing in Davis, how someone is going to sue on measure J, and on why cutting school costs actually costs money, and how more housing will save schools.  And there are the usual copy articles on the evils of 'carceration' by the ACLU.  And by the way, if you liked the ACLU of years ago, join F.I.R.E..  It's like the old ACLU without all the new utlra-progressive crap.

DG say:  "The website highlights the various segments of the Vanguard. My focus will continue to be heavily on Davis issues and multiple commentaries each week."  Let me guess:  Recycled crap about  housing in Davis, how someone is going to sue on measure J, on why cutting school costs actually costs money, and how more housing will save schools.

DG say:  "we now have a team member who is working exclusively on grants which we see as part of the long-term financial sustainability for the Vanguard."  It's good to have a team member doing this, so they can get grants that will partially cover their own salary  :-|   And bye bye Sparkplug Foundation:  you exhibit poor judgement.

KO say:  "I remember the days when there would be 50 comments by 9am. There were robust conversations. The fact now that comments often sit in the moderation queue for hours kills any chance of that ever happening again."   Yup.

KO say:  "Where are the several conservative commenters that used to post? Having diverse views used to generate more commenting. I thought progressives were supposed to be all about diversity."  Diversity of skin color, not diversity of ideas.

KO say:  "What you need are the Alan Millers, Ron Oertels, SOD’s and Frankly’s to return."  Not to mention Rik Keller, that spacey woman who talked about space aliens, and that drunkard musician who doxxed RO with the global coordinates of his house.

And yes, bringing back Alan C. Miller would be the savior of the Vanguard.  He is more interesting then the entire blog and its staff combined and can bring you joy and eternal life.  Alan C. Miller says:  "I am the resurrection and the life.  He who believes in my will never die!"  [Actually Alan C. Miller does not say that.]

But it is true that bringing back the robust community comments would bring more clicks and more eyes.  Apparently that doesn't interest the Vanguard.  Having developers, H.A.L.'s, useful idiots, startup foundations and civil-rights lawyers fund the thing is all that matters in the new business model, apparently, and community engagement and discussion or even clicks really don't matter.  Is that sustainable?  Especially with a tax lawsuit to fight?

I would have gladly served as a site-tester for the new website, but no one asked me.  Apparently DG never even had a normal person look at it, as surely they would have said, "Dude . . . "

Well, DG, your savior awaits.  DG deep down knows I am the savior, that my comments are the best, most humorous, and most interesting and will save all blogs whom I touch.  DG knows my terms.  DG knows the real problem.  But until he deals with it . . .

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103 responses to “Al’s Corner August – “Vanguard News Group” New Website Still Sucks”

  1. South of Davis

    I was tihinking about lookig at the new blog, but then I decided not to take the time. David will never let peple like me and Alan back on his blog since he wants to gaslight his half dozen or so readers without anyone posting things like “closing a school really will save money” (despite what his school board advertisers tell him) “paving over farmland is not good for the environment” (despite what his developer advertizers tell him) and “the reason that more men get arrested than women is that men commit more crimes than woman” (despite what his civil rights attorney advertisers tell him)…

  2. Ron O

    “I honestly wanted it to be better, but it wasn’t.”
    I, on the other hand, did not want it to be better.
    I’m about as much of a fan of the Vanguard as David is regarding Measure J.
    (Which he claims to be concerned about preserving – by gutting it.)
    “But it is true that bringing back the robust community comments would bring more clicks and more eyes.”
    They’re not coming back. The problem wasn’t the website (old, OR new).
    “DG say: “we now have a team member who is working exclusively on grants which we see as part of the long-term financial sustainability for the Vanguard.”
    What other organizations AREN’T getting those competitive grants, when the Vanguard gets them instead?

  3. Alan C. Miller

    Amazing fact: KO still posts there . . . . . I wonder how he evaded the rotating knives directed at ‘conservative’ commenters?
    Monty Python – Architect Sketch
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2PyeXRwhCE&t=143s

  4. Alan C. Miller

    RO say: “What other organizations AREN’T getting those competitive grants, when the Vanguard gets them instead?”
    I heard “Save the Puppies” lost out last time 😦 #sniff#

  5. Alan C. Miller

    RO say: “I, on the other hand, did not want it to be better.”
    I understand the sentiment (or as a geologist, I should say ‘sediment’). However, the Vanguard is like the Anti-Guide. It’s a great place to go to learn exactly how not to think or act, and sometimes has factoids that are not found elsewhere, at least for those of us not on social eviledia. I don’t know if any of this is on eviledia, because I’m not on social eviledia.
    So if one is to go there, having it be a pain-in-the-ass to use is not helpful, not matter which ‘side’ one is on. And I did enjoy the old conversations. But there is little left of those, except for the blather spewed forth by the remaining eleven ‘unusual suspects’. (Note: I personally consider Barack Palin to be outside the blather. But that’s me, and I do I).

  6. Keith

    “KO say:”
    Yup, I had the very first comment on the new Vanguard website. And guess what, it got deleted for some reason. Same old Vanguard… meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
    Yes the comment got reinstated after I emailed David Greenwald and complained. But I’m tired of dealing with that bullshit. Too many comments either get deleted or sit in the moderation queue for way too long. It’s not worth the effort.

  7. Keith

    Alan, I actually look forward to your monthly posts here.
    One of your articles is more interesting than a month of Vanguard articles.
    The Davisite is lucky to have you.

  8. Alan C. Miller

    Yes they are 😐
    or . . . Yes, it is 😐
    Depending on whether “The Davisite” is people (like Soylent Green) or an inanimate entity

  9. Alan C. Miller

    KO say: “But I’m tired of dealing with that bullshit. Too many comments either get deleted or sit in the moderation queue for way too long. It’s not worth the effort.”
    I hope you’ll still post there occasionally, KO. Your comments are the only thing that makes the Vanguard — well — not like eating sand.

  10. Ron O

    Alan, I actually look forward to your monthly posts here.
    One of your articles is more interesting than a month of Vanguard articles.
    The Davisite is lucky to have you.

    I agree. For that matter, you’re the only one holding the Davisite together.
    You don’t need to comment on the Vanguard to be “appreciated”.

  11. Alan C. Miller

    “you’re the only one holding the Davisite together.”
    Well, that’s a bridge too far. I didn’t create it, and I don’t have the keys to the car.
    “You don’t need to comment on the Vanguard to be “appreciated”.”
    By three people.

  12. Ron O

    I didn’t create it, and I don’t have the keys to the car.
    True, but you’re the one who created a “corner” (where most of the comments are), and are one of the few who periodically submit articles (with an entertainment value, to boot).
    “You don’t need to comment on the Vanguard to be “appreciated”.”
    By three people.

    Hard to tell. But some of the same people (other than the “three”) have commented on the Davisite, previously. And how many “appreciate” the Vanguard, and how many “hate” it? Certainly, there’s some who let their money do the talking.
    There’s no reason that this can’t become what the Vanguard “used to be” (or better).

  13. Alan C. Miller

    RO say: “There’s no reason that this can’t become what the Vanguard “used to be” (or better).”
    Ron Ortel, always the optimist 😐

  14. Alan C. Miller

    Vanguard News Group, New Webpage, additional review:
    I saw a article I wanted to read in the circulating banner at the top “Top Stories”. I went to “More Stories” and didn’t see it there, so went back to the top to click, but it wasn’t there, and the banner wasn’t moving. I waited about a minute, but the banner never moved.
    By that time, I forgot what the article even was.
    Also, “Top Stories” isn’t really the right term, but it’ll do. I’d suggest “Featured Stories”. And “More Stories” really isn’t right. Like “Today’s Headlines” would be better, as it starts with the new stuff, and should draw people to it.
    The banner at the top needs to have smaller pictures like the old one, and have a border, and move like 2-3 times faster, and actually move all the time and not jam up.
    I know I’m being a dick writing the article at all DG, but seriously this was a FAIL, and if you look at my article in different light, JUST TRYING TO HELP, DUDE. Constructive criticism and all that. If you are going to exist, I’d like you to be FUNCTIONALLY USEABLE. As opposed to clunky and a pain in the rear to use.

  15. Alan C. Miller

    OK, I saw this comment by Walter Schwe in the Vanguard comment section. But then it was gone. So I was gonna let it be. Imagine there’s no borders, etc. You may say that I’m a dreamer . . .
    And I was dreaming. The same comment apparently showed up on Facebook (Evil) as someone sent me a copy of it from there. So, if y’all WS are gonna go to all that trouble to copy the post on Evil, I will go to the trouble to rip your comment to shreds:
    Posted by Walter Shwe
    Keith Olsen said:
    “What you need are the Alan Millers, Ron Oertels, SOD’s and Frankly’s to return.”

    Ya, Keith! Go, KO! Rah Rah Shish Boom Bah Fight Fight Fight! Gooooow Team!
    WS then say: They essentially decided to ban themselves.
    As I’ve said many times, I committed commenticide. I was tired of spending time writing my opinion and having it disappear. My time is worth something, but someone #ahem# doesn’t respect that and simply disappears my effort. I said to that someone #ahem# ‘that’s fine, but cite what rule I was violating and post that the comment was deleted and why’. I received a ‘well if you don’t know I can’t help you’ sort of reply. That, my friends, and WS, is shitty moderation.
    So I wrote a comment so ridiculously and comedically offensive that they had to ban me. And they didn’t get the joke. And the shitty moderation continues. So you can try to pretty up a website, and fail, by putting lipstick on a pig, or a used motor oil & fentanyl cocktail on a pig in this case (why is a cock’s tail on a pig?), but if you moderation still sucks, it’s still a pig.
    WS say: “I couldn’t be happier.”
    If several people you believe to be conservatives no longer posting on the Vanguard News Group brings you to your peak level of happiness, you might want to look into new meds, or a new life.
    WS say: They seem to think they are above commenting here even though they are obsessed with following the posts and comments.
    The operative word being “seems”, which means ‘as WS sees it’, which is incorrect. As for us peeps you ‘seem’ to believe are ‘conservative’, how can one be ‘obsessed’ with following something that almost doesn’t exist anymore, i.e. comments on the Vanguard? And how is reading these comments an obsession?
    As for ‘being above’ commenting here – what in the flying F do you mean by that. I’m not above commenting in the Vanguard. I’d gladly comment there and will any time. That is neither above or below me. DG knows my terms. And until he’s ready to address the real problem . . .
    . . . well, he can enjoy a motor oil, pork and fentanyl milkshake at Murder Burger. All he needs is a time machine and convincing the manager to put all that crap in their blender.

  16. Keith

    And until he’s ready to address the real problem . . .
    Are you referring to what an old Vanguard commenter who played a guitar and gave away GPS coordinates of another commenter used to call “Immoderation”?

  17. Ron O

    My View: The Council Has Failed to Address Key Problems in the Community
    Yeah, we know what you think David. And yes, we could go through each one of your specific nonsensical conclusions, like we’ve done a thousand other times.
    But just the other day, you were noting that incumbents get re-elected regardless. And in that case, you were dismissing the concerns of those who don’t agree with YOU.

  18. Ron O

    Keith: That guy was only a symptom of the problem.
    The REAL problem is that the Vanguard encourages personal attacks. That hasn’t disappeared even though they’ve implemented “pre-screening”.
    Witness the subsequent comments from folks like Walter Shwe, Richard McCann, etc.
    They continuously make comments regarding the person whose views they oppose, rather than disputing the actual arguments put forth. The Vanguard purposefully enables this.
    Then there’s David, who just plows ahead with his same arguments as if there’s no legitimate challenge to his claims (e.g., closing a school somehow “costs money”, according to him and the school district).
    Or in other words, “the more you save, the more you spend”? (I thought it was the other-way around, according to the retail advertisements I see.)
    Today, he’s rattling on about how there “aren’t enough shelter beds” while simultaneously noting that many homeless people refuse to use them. (Actually, his argument is that taxpayers owe these people apartments and services, regardless of where they’re from.)
    Here’s an idea: How about sheltering them in a locale that’s someplace other than the most-expensive cities in the country? Wouldn’t that make more financial sense?

  19. Alan C. Miller

    From the Voonsplard Today!!! “Monday Morning Thoughts: July Was the Hottest Ever”
    DG say: “And extreme heat comes at a great cost to state and local governments and presents a devastating health impact that is likely to continue to increase over the next three quarters of a century.”
    And not one mention of the ever-expanding mass coal burning in China, India, Congo, etc.

  20. Alan C. Miller

    VANGUARD WEBPAGE IS MESSED UP! The ‘hottest July ever’ story has a comment on he front page. But when you click on the page it doesn’t have a comment. Oops.
    DG listened to me and pulled the disfunctional/distracting banner at the top. But instead of fixing it as I suggested, they just pulled it.
    Oh, and the content hasn’t improved at ALL!

  21. Keith

    “And not one mention of the ever-expanding mass coal burning in China, India, Congo, etc.”
    Alan, China is not the problem. Everyone knows that if Davis gets rid of gas burning stoves and institutes paid parking thereby inducing more bicycle transportation that climate change will soon be under control.

  22. Alan C. Miller

    My real estate agent said gas stoves are still a big plus when buying a house in Davis. “Cool Davis” and “Davis CAN” need to get to those home buyers and convince them that natural gas is a scary scary boogeyman!!! Open House Saturday!!! Get out there progressives and save the planet!!!

  23. South of Davis

    When I read the “hottest July ever” headline I’m pretty sure that it was not caused by the remaining gass stoves in Davis, but caused by a friend who bought a single “illegal in CA” metal and glass 40W light bulbs for his oven on eBay (since Amazon won’t ship standard light bulbs to the plastic LED bulbs that are not recomended for use in an oven). P.S. Years ago when renting an apartment in SF a friend that likes to cook told me he replaced the electric stove with a gas stove and when I asked him how he got the landlord to OK it and run a gas line he said he didn’t tell the landlord and is running the stove off a BBQ propane tank in the cabinet below the stove.

  24. Ron O

    Alan: That’s because you’ll need those gas stoves for the “ultimate solution” when the climate becomes unbearable.
    Sorry – too much Twilight Zone for me.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wrmIp8BCEk

  25. Keith

    I was reading an article on the Vanguard this morning and something seemed different. All of a sudden it dawned on me that there were no ads on the page. No ads anywhere that I could find on the entire site. The pages downloaded quicker with no warning that the website was using too much energy. It was refreshing for a change not dodging the advertisements and banners. Is this an aberration or has the Vanguard scrapped its advertising?

  26. Alan C. Miller

    Here’s how I see it: A developer or lawyer who supports the V saw my article critical of the ads and threatened to pull financial support of the V is something wasn’t done to fix the site at once. The V complied and viola, no more ads.

  27. Keith

    So besides “biological male” there are several new terms that the Vanguard is putting the quash on.
    David writes today:
    “You’ll notice in our articles we have not used terms like “criminals” “inmates” “felons” “defendants” for some time. It falls under the category generic insult very clearly.”
    So if someone is in jail for murdering someone you can’t refer to them as a criminal, felon, defendant or an inmate on the Vanguard.
    It’s getting difficult to comment there, you never know when a once accepted term is now taboo. Maybe you can say ‘unfortunate person in jail who murdered another human being”? Can I say “murdered”? I’ll have to check on that.

  28. Ron O

    Keith: One of the things I’ve increasingly-noticed (in regard to some of those who claim a “progressive” outlook) is an attempt to control other people’s language.
    To the point where a local librarian took action that was likely illegal, but was somehow justified in his own mind. (My apologies for making an assumption regarding that person’s gender.)
    But it seems as though the ACLU is no longer concerned about such “trivial matters”.

  29. Keith

    The Vanguard needs to post a list of banned words that will get your comment deleted. Who wants to go to the trouble of authoring a comment just to get it removed because you used forbidden words like ‘inmate’ or ‘defendant’. Generic insults I’m told. Who knew those words were so bad.

  30. South of Davis

    I’m betting that David (and pretty much everyone else left of center) keeps calling Trump a “convicted felon” (even seconds after yelling ar someone for usng the term “felon” to describe an actual felon in one of the “classes: of people they find the need to “protect”. Whenever you look into “hate speech” it is always hating someone right of center is “free speech” but using the EXACT SAME term to describe anyone left of center is “hate speech”. P.S. I was rectntly talking to a group of High School age Davis boys and it seems like all the years in Davis schools with far left teachers yelling at them any views slightly to the right of center has created a buch of super conservative kids (way more right of center than the pro choice on anything kinda right of center kinda libertarian views of most 80’s “Regan Era” CA fraternity guys now in their late 50’s and early 60’s).

  31. Alan C. Miller

    KO say: “It’s getting difficult to comment there, you never know when a once accepted term is now taboo.”
    Can you say “that” or “have” ? Might want to check on that, too. Along with the words: ‘might’, ‘want’, ‘to’, ‘check’, ‘on’, ‘too’, ‘along’, ‘with’, ‘the’ and ‘words’ — and ‘and’. All these words could have been banned by the Thought Police, some time since noon.
    DG has outdone himself today in his circular, boring ridiculousness. I have no problem with the Vanguard deciding not to use any terms it doesn’t wish to use. But to ask commenters to hold themselves to the same standard is elementary-school all-gender-equivalent-of-marm finger-wagingly cringeworthy and self-righteous.
    Why not just “let” commenters use whatever language they wish to use? Those reading can then judge for themselves if the person isn’t woke enough to pass their own personal litmus test, and they can personally condemn them. But to sit there at the gate of your own comment section and police people’s words in how they describe things just makes you look like a self-important a**hole.

  32. Ronald O

    There seems to be quite a few threats emanating from folks like Newsom and Bonta, these days. And in this case, it’s not about housing per se. Instead, it’s due to the unwillingness of places like Los Angeles to clear their streets of homeless encampments.
    And the “threat” is to send money for “tiny houses” to places like San Jose, instead. (Can someone explain to me exactly “how” that’s a threat? In other words, “if you don’t cooperate by clearing your streets, we’ll send funds for homeless housing to other cities, instead?) Most cities (not necessarily Los Angeles) would say, “uhm, yeah – go ahead.”
    The “punishment” being that they’ll encourage the homeless to go to those “host cities” instead, I guess.
    “Newsom slams Los Angeles County over homelessness, threatens funding cuts”
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/newsom-slams-los-angeles-county-over-homelessness-threatens-funding-cuts/ar-AA1owJmD?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=NMTS&cvid=8343e0ceda124a3492e24f9ede641147&ei=14

  33. South of Davis

    Alan asks:

    Why not just “let” commenters use whatever language they wish to use?
    I have not seen the sacred texts (or plates) of the “woke religion” but I’m pretty sure that one of the main tenants of the “woke religion” is to correct ANYONE that uses unacceptable (non-woke) language. If a guy in a wheelchair says he is “disabled” they will say “you mean handicapable”, if a black guy says he is is black they will say “you mean African American” and if a Rabbi says he supports Israel they will say “you mean you support the baby killers”…

  34. Alan C. Miller

    A bizarre comment form over on that “other site”: from Yesterday’s (8/8) Voonsplard article, “Harris’ VP Pick Tim Walz Key Choice by Criminal Justice Reform Advocates”
    Kendra Smith says:
    August 9, 2024 at 8:45 am
    KS say: “The right wing has nothing except their perpetual grievances.”
    Nothing? How about their conservative social and fiscal values?
    KS say: “Period.”
    OK, How about their conservative social and fiscal values? Period.
    KS say: “Just look at the first comment by a conservative in this thread.”
    Oh my God, the Vanguard allowed a conservative to post? 😐
    KS say: “Complete twaddle and just a right-wing shibboleth that cannot be supported by any credible evidence.”
    I didn’t hear an argument or discussion there. Just complete twaddle and just a left-wing shibboleth that cannot be supported by any credible evidence.
    KS say: “That is literally all they have.”
    Still just hearing complete twaddle and just a left-wing shibboleth.
    KS say: “I mean, just look at “the other site” here in town for the grievance-filled sweeping claims that can’t be supported with credible evidence.”
    I believe KS is referring the Davisite. Rah Rah Shish Boom Bah 😐
    KS say: “They look and sound like the Pick a Little Ladies from “The Music Man.””
    Don’t know the reference, don’t care to look it up.
    KS say: “And sorry, right wingers. “Christofascist” is fair game.”
    By fair game, I take that to mean you believe you have the right to special moderation exceptions from a left wing blog because you are using left-wing-created insults.
    KS say: “It’s another word for “Christian nationalist.””
    A rather pejorative word for it. And the Vanguard says they don’t allow those.
    KS say: “That term objectively describes the groups’ aims, and doesn’t constitute “hate speech,” contrary to what people like KO try to claim.”
    “Hate Speech” is in the eye of the beholder. If one believes they are so self-right or group-right that they can hate on the other side, then how could they even see what they are doing to be ‘hate speech’. They are just insulting evil in their humble #ahem# opinions.
    KS say: “And I just love how many “nice polite bystanders” in the comments here (and elsewhere) are the first to go after liberals for biting back, but don’t remark on anything that the right wing does to attack Democrats and liberals.”
    I believe the ‘nice polite bystanders’ leave it up to people such as yourself, KS, to remark on anything that the right wing does to attack Democrats and liberals.
    KS say: “But, sure. It is conservatives who are wronged.”
    Everybody’s is wrong, when everybody’s right. Or as Stephen Stills penned, “Nobody’s right if everybody’s wrong.”
    KS say: “Cry me a river.”
    Not humanly possible, and I don’t do things just because someone on a blog who I disagree with tells me to.
    By the way KS, do you have any idea what a real right-wing extremist is like? Like, what are you attacking those who comment on the Davisite for? Some may appear right-wing in the backdrop of town like Davis, but you might want to visit some ‘flyover’ states and talk to people there. Yes, there are bigots, like anywhere. But that’s what I did and learned at a young age not to hate conservatives, and that the decent ones actually just have a different way of viewing the world, and I realized some of it had value.
    So I despise bigots as much as you do, but I don’t despise someone just for being ‘conservative’ or ‘right wing’, whatever you are defining that as. You act much like someone who condemns anyone who does not subscribe fully to the political agenda you subscribe to, and has no interest in discussion or nuance.

  35. Alan C. Miller

    Hey KS, check out this video:
    We’re All Far Right Now
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsbRrTULpgA
    Great stuff, eh?

  36. Alan C. Miller

    In 2-days Voonsplird: “My View: Davis Is Falling Behind on Housing Progress According to One Tracker”
    DG say: “This week, YIMBY Law introduced its Fair Housing Element Tracker.”
    In others news, African lions just introduced their first Gazelle Tracker.
    DG say: “Buried within my article is the fact that Davis, while in compliance with its Housing Element, is making what they call “slow progress.”
    That’s the kind of progress I like !!!
    DG: say: “This city is falling behind. It is not on track to meet its housing targets,” they write.”
    In other news, ‘Sun Hot’.

  37. Ron O

    DG: say: “This city is falling behind. It is not on track to meet its housing targets,” they write.”
    Of course, David fails to note that very few cities ARE on track to meet their “housing targets”.
    But what’s rather surprising is how many “hell-hole” cities (places like Barstow, Blythe, Calexico, California City, etc., aren’t even “in compliance”, let alone “on target”. Do you think YIMBY Law cares about THAT?
    And since David constantly tries to tie this back to Measure J, what if a council (in ANY city) declines to annex land, when they’re not “on target”? Something tells me that’s a big fat “no”, despite those areas having some of the most-affordable housing development opportunities in the state.
    Is the assumption that councils are just going to fold like a deck of cards? That is, if a proposal even addresses RHNA targets in the first place?
    Is the state going to start forcing cities to annex land? That’s certainly not a part of ANY of the new state laws.
    Regarding Measure J, how about if we wait and see if the state has any “problem” with that at all, before everyone starts panicking (or in the case of David and the Vanguard – starts celebrating)?
    But if the state actually DOES have a problem with Measure J, it might become more clear that they don’t actually care about sprawl, loss of open space/farmland – which would be in DIRECT OPPOSITION to the supposed justification for the new state laws in the first place.
    Clearly, YIMBY Law is supportive of sprawl. Look who is funding them, to see what they’re actually about. (Another case of abuse of 501(c)(3) status, by the way.)
    The time to appease these a-holes has long since passed.

  38. Ron O

    Oh, and unlike the Vanguard, I’ll actually PROVIDE links to what David is citing:
    https://cities.fairhousingelements.org/
    I’d suggest that YIMBY Law members join Habitat for Humanity, if they want to appear to be something other than paid shills.
    If it’s good enough for Jimmy Carter, it’s good enough for these people. Just remember – the “clawed” end of the hammer faces outward, when hammering nails. (No doubt, some of those people would need such instruction.)

  39. Ron O

    Something tells me that’s a big fat “no”, despite those areas having some of the most-affordable housing development opportunities in the state.
    This sentence was not very clear. It was a reference the “concern” that YIMBY Law would have, regarding “already-affordable” cities which haven’t even submitted an approved housing element.
    So if the issue is actually about affordable housing, maybe the focus should be on areas that are already-affordable.
    It’s usually at this point that they’ll say something like this: “We want to make housing affordable where there’s “opportunity”. Which if taken to a logical conclusion, would mean that everyone would abandon a place like Stockton, and move to San Francisco instead. And that housing prices should be the same in both locales.
    So rather than improving Stockton, they want to move everyone out of it in the name of “opportunity”. This is not unlike the argument used in regard to DJUSD, in regard to the negative impact of poaching students from surrounding communities.
    In other words, they have no concern for those “left behind”.
    It doesn’t make much sense, folks.

  40. Ron O

    I’ve heard the saying (below) a number of times. It also applies to the housing market, which is the reason we’re seeing prices crash in some markets (like Austin):
    “And that’s what you want: The solution to high prices is high prices.”
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/americans-refusal-to-keep-paying-higher-prices-may-be-dealing-a-final-blow-to-us-inflation-spike/ar-AA1oDEoY?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=e43fd484a980462a98d17d5c0591a2fd&ei=61

  41. Ron O

    Some good news, despite how this is presented:
    https://www.marinij.com/2024/08/14/20b-bay-area-housing-bond-could-be-cut-from-the-ballot/
    “Pulling the bond from the November ballot is a major blow to leaders of Bay Area cities and counties, who have been counting on the funds . . .”
    Indeed – it’s going to blow yet another giant hole in RHNA “requirements”.
    “But the bond has not been without critics, who mainly take issue with its high cost. The bond would levy an estimated annual property tax of $18.98 per $100,000 of assessed value, or about $265 per year for a $1.4 million home or commercial property.”
    Yeap – those are HOUSING (and business) costs. Who do you think pays for that?
    And thanks to the Howard Jarvis Association regarding Proposition 5, which is indirectly related to the pulling of the $20 billion measure from the ballot. And thanks to the opponents of the $20 billion dollar bond, itself.
    But you can see the plan, here. First, get Proposition 5 passed – which would lower the percentage of votes required for new taxes. Then, present this same $20 billion proposal in some future year, under the reduced requirements for approval.
    The state (and often, local representatives) continue to wage war against their own cities and counties. And yet, these battles are still being fought on an “individual city” level, rather than the statewide level that needs to occur to topple it.
    The solution to high prices is high prices, as noted earlier. How many people should California have in the first place?

  42. Ron O

    I don’t know how/why the people who end up on councils (or as other government representatives) constantly try to fight the will of its own citizens, not to mention abandonment of responsibility for safety and the natural environment. I can only summize that the process of elections themselves “weeds out” those without connections to development and other funded interests. Anyway, here’s yet another example:
    “The court rightly rejected the city’s attempt to ram through the Fanita Ranch project without considering the dangers of developing in a wildfire-prone zone,’ Senior Counsel at the Center for Biological Diversity, John Bose, told The Union-Tribune.”
    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/california-town-at-war-over-plan-for-3k-homes-on-stunning-lakeside/ar-AA1oRgWl

  43. Keith

    I’m curious, does anyone know why all the comments have been deleted on the article “Fight for our Future”?
    I didn’t see any comments that warranted being censored. There were some comments that came from a different political stance than the article but that’s called free speech.
    I feel an explanation is due.

  44. South of Davis

    Keith there were comments about a guy that I won’t name (his name starts with an F and ends with an Ouchie) who “stands for science”. Anyone that points out that when EVERY time he says “follow the science” is a synonym for “increasing pharmaceutical industry profits” (and his personal net worth with millions in pharmaceutical investments) must be a crazy right wing MAGA person and the post must be deleted. My off the grid vegan friend in Sonoma County does not understand why most of his moderate Democrat “fight the man” friends from 40 years ago that joined him at Bohemian Grove Action Network protests now sound like paid lobbyists for the pharmaceutical industry. They say they don’t have time cook healthy food or go for a walk every day and since Ozempic is “safe and effective” and just $600/month it seems like the best way to lose weight…

  45. Alan C. Miller

    KO say: ” does anyone know why all the comments have been deleted on the article “Fight for our Future”? ”
    KO, no I don’t know why your comments are gone — it’s not one of my articles so I don’t have control of the comments there. I don’t see any in the queue either. Looking at the article now there are no comments at all. I had posted a comment there that was published, and now it is gone, and I think I posted another comment later but not sure if it was published or not. I guess the extreme-left political views expressed in that article are so correct they are beyond questioning or criticism?
    In other sad sad Davis blog news, the Davis Vanguard url now takes you to a gold and black Indonesian lottery site with a picture of a seemingly-underage, massive-breasted, anorexic, Asian ‘woman’ (girl) in a cleavage-revealing black leather top. Very embarrassing look for Mr. Greenwald. This has been going on for two days now, on and off. Did someone ‘forget’ to pay their lawyer?

  46. Ron O

    Looking at the article now there are no comments at all.
    I believe that’s increasingly the goal, on here and on the Vanguard.

  47. Alan C. Miller

    Well, I can assure you it certainly isn’t MY goal 🙂
    I have never deleted a comment, and I doubt I ever will. Instead I have couple of times had to delete a few words in a comment in order that the comment comply with Al’s Corner commenting policy. When done right, it makes the poster look like an arse but removes the target of said arse’s post. Only two people have had this done to their comments, for hurling insults with no intrinsic content to the comment whatsovever, with initials KS and WS, and they appear to have abandoned this blog, despite always being welcome. Oh and once to RO, but to be fair he was responding in kind to the persons above.

  48. South of Davis

    I’m happy that Alan had not deleted comments since RFK Jr recently said that throughout history the good guys were never the ones censoring speech.
    https://www.instagram.com/p/CuCldz_OSej/
    It is crazy how in a few years people like me, Elon Musk, Bill Mahar and RFK, Jr. have gone from “Moderate Democrats” to “Ultra MAGA Far Right Extremists”
    I can understand why the “media” likes big pharma (since they buy tons of ads that say things like “ask your doctor if this pill that costs us a penny per pill to make and costs your insurance company $300 a month is right for you”.
    I can’t understand why most people in Davis like (and trust) big pharma and will say things like “sure all the unvaccinated people you know have never had Covid even once but I’m getting my 6th booster anyway because I trust the science”…

  49. Keith

    I tried to log into the Vanguard this morning and I got sent to a site called Bento4D. I hope I’m not getting my phone hacked by trying to access the Vanguard.

  50. Ron O

    So, here’s yet another nail in the confirm regarding the state’s efforts to force housing:
    ” . . . the original goal of AB 2560 and go beyond the scope of it by giving more authority over housing to the Coastal Commission, which has proven to not prioritize the building of housing, . . .”
    Right – because they’re trying to preserve the coast – for everyone (rather than those who would prefer to privatize it).
    “The California coast should not be for a select few.”
    I (and the California Coastal Commission) agree, which is exactly why it’s fortunate that this politician’s efforts failed. But I have no doubt that this Wiener-wanna-be will try again.
    Ironic, how he views the effort to preserve the coast as somehow in opposition to his claimed goal.
    Building more housing along the coast destroys, rather than preserves it. Honestly, I thought this would be understood by now – since the effort goes back decades at this point.
    But as long as there’s potential money to be made, there will always be a fox trying to get into the henhouse. (Actually, they’re already in there, but they are still sometimes having trouble getting the eggs and chickens.)
    https://davisvanguard.org/2024/08/guest-commentary-the-failure-of-affordable-housing-in-coastal-california/

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