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Letter: Andrew Engdahl for Congress, Davis Farmers Market Feb 10th

Screen Shot 2024-02-04 at 10.12.55 AMAndrew Engdahl is a smart, principled vote for you, a healthy, affordable country, and a vote against military overspending and inhumane policies abroad—March 5th Congressional Primary. Of the people, he is not shy about showing his colors.  

Meet Andrew Engdahl at the Davis Farmer's Market on February 10th.  Hear him for yourself online:

https://www.instagram.com/p/C2vwXFEpT7b/ Instagram/TikTok

Andrew Engdahl is a long-time Sonoma County resident and Hodgkin’s Lymphoma survivor; his campaign goal is to win runner-up in the Primary Election (March 5th) and then square off with the incumbent, Mike Thompson.

Why should we tolerate military overspending, continued gun violence, and incarcerating the poor? Thompson is not fighting a future for most of us and has supported policies of corporate control of unaffordable housing, massive wealth inequality, slow-walking climate action, and the list goes on.

If your kids and their kids are looking at a better future, it will be because you voted for Andrew Engdahl. 

Scott Steward

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14 responses to “Letter: Andrew Engdahl for Congress, Davis Farmers Market Feb 10th”

  1. Roberta L. Millstein

    I’ve never been a single-issue voter and I’m not going to start now. So I will give Engdahl a look-see.
    That being said, I have been very happy with Representative Mike Thompson’s approach to the Hamas/Israel conflict. In his letters to the editor to the Davis Enterprise (and as an aside, I very much appreciate his engaging with us there), he expressed concern “about the conduct of war waged by the Netanyahu government” and urged that “stronger efforts must be taken to avoid civilian casualties.” However, and importantly, he also expressed concern “that a unilateral cease fire would provide Hamas with an opportunity to regroup and commit further atrocities” and recognized that “peace in the region is not possible if Gaza remains a platform for terrorism.”
    Quotes are from https://www.davisenterprise.com/forum/letter-a-path-forward-in-the-middle-east/article_0b7ad256-9f67-11ee-840e-97a1769544ac.html — these points are reiterated in a second letter: https://www.davisenterprise.com/forum/letter-clear-opposition-to-civilian-casualties/article_d1fbcd2c-aa5c-11ee-b658-5fcf144f2c7c.html
    In contrast, Engdahl’s Twitter/X feed seems to suggest that he supports an unconditional and immediate ceasefire (if he does not support that I am happy to be corrected). I do not believe that there is a path to peace and a two-state solution that way.

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  2. Keith

    “Representative Mike Thompson’s approach to the Hamas/Israel conflict”:
    “However, and importantly, he also expressed concern “that a unilateral cease fire would provide Hamas with an opportunity to regroup and commit further atrocities” and recognized that “peace in the region is not possible if Gaza remains a platform for terrorism.”
    “In contrast, Engdahl’s Twitter/X feed seems to suggest that he supports an unconditional and immediate ceasefire (if he does not support that I am happy to be corrected). I do not believe that there is a path to peace and a two-state solution that way.”
    In other words, the Hamas terrorists have to be rooted out before there can be a path forward. Correct?

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  3. Ron O

    I figure this is sufficiently-related to the topic of the Davisite article:
    “This Bay Area school district spent $250,000 on Woke Kindergarten program. Test scores fell even further”
    “District officials defended the program this past week, saying that Woke Kindergarten did what it was hired to do. The district pointed to improvements in attendance and suspension rates, and that the school was no longer on the state watch list, only to learn from the Chronicle that the school was not only still on the list but also had dropped to a lower level.”
    “The Woke Kindergarten curriculum shared with schools includes “wonderings,” which pose questions for students, including, “If the United States defunded the Israeli military, how could this money be used to rebuild Palestine?”
    https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/woke-kindergarten-glassbrook-hayward-18635504.php

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  4. Roberta L. Millstein

    Keith writes, “the Hamas terrorists have to be rooted out before there can be a path forward.”
    I wouldn’t use the phrase “rooted out.” I would say, though, that while there is an organization like Hamas that calls for the eradication of Israel, and arguably for the eradication of Jews, and who commits atrocities like that of October 7, there cannot be a path to peace. I guess I would use the word “dismantled” rather than “rooted out.”

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  5. Ron O

    Roberta: Given the circumstances, do you see any way to “dismantle” Hamas other than by killing some of them?
    Do you think the Nazis could have been “dismantled” without killing some of them?
    ISIS, etc.?

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  6. Alan C. Miller

    RM say: “I guess I would use the word “dismantled” rather than “rooted out.” ”
    I’m not sure I understand the difference. Two different phrases for the same thing. Some phrasing has a bit more emphasis, like to say “obliterate” or “destroy” — still, gone is gone, no matter how you eradicate or do away with ———- IT.

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  7. Roberta L. Millstein

    “Rooted out” to my ears is a term that you would apply to a weed or an animal “pest.” I try to avoid dehumanizing language like that, given how often dehumanizing language has been used toward Jews. Things are bad enough without us failing to see each other as people. And yes, I err on the side of caution here. Please remember that I only brought this up because Keith asked me directly. I am explaining in the hope that we can call things what they are — they are bad enough as they are — and avoid the dehumanizing language, which certainly has not gone well for Jews.
    “Dismantle” is a broader term that includes potential political solutions, as are being explored by some parties in the Middle East (such as dispersing Hamas’s leaders to other countries). It might also include military solutions, but it doesn’t necessarily.

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  8. Alan C. Miller

    I agree about using dehumanizing language. I agree that Hamas must be ******’d. Yet, I have seen numerous videos in which Jews and Israeli’s use dehumanizing language towards Hamas and/or Palestinians. And there’s no shortage of Palestinians and or Hamas calling for the eradication of Israel and/or Jews. Dehumanizing the “other” is as old as warfare.
    I don’t believe the issue is with the fact that ‘animals’ or ‘barbarians’ (as examples I’ve heard) committed October 7th, the real issue is that human beings did.

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  9. Roberta L. Millstein

    ACM, yep, there is way too much dehumanizing language on both sides, which is why I don’t want to contribute to any more of it. And I think the Davisite should avoid it, too.
    You write, “I don’t believe the issue is with the fact that ‘animals’ or ‘barbarians’ (as examples I’ve heard) committed October 7th, the real issue is that human beings did.”
    Exactly.

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  10. South of Davis

    RM say: “I guess I would use the word “dismantled” rather than “rooted out.” ”
    It seems like “flooded out” is better than “rooted out”
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a65xh3gPLg8

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  11. Keith

    Definition of ’root out’
    Word Frequency
    root out
    1. PHRASAL VERB
    If you root out a person, you find them and force them from the place they are in, usually in order to punish them.
    The generals have to root out traitors. [VERB PARTICLE noun]
    It shouldn’t take too long to root him out. [VERB noun PARTICLE]
    2. PHRASAL VERB
    If you root out a problem or an unpleasant situation, you find out who or what is the cause of it and put an end to it.
    There would be a major drive to root out corruption. [VERB PARTICLE noun]
    Any sort of wrong-doing had to be rooted out. [VERB PARTICLE noun (not pronoun)]

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  12. Alan C. Miller

    While I agree that using dehumanizing nouns and adjectives is destructive on all sides and for all reasons, I just don’t agree that the verbs discussed are dehumanizing.

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  13. Scott

    Why should we want to fund and aid one of the dehuminizing parties in this conflict – to the point where the eminent ahnihilation (not words of hate – but death of the other) is occuring? And militarily – there is no rooting out of Hamas to be had in Gaza or in all of the occupied territory. It is entirely irrational to conduct a war this way and it is not going to win a peace.
    Congressman Thompson has it very wrong.
    The International Court of Justice has ruled that Israel’s attack on Gaza a “plausible genocide” and has ordered Israel to take steps to protect civilians. The court found that there is substantive evidence of Israel’s intent to annihilate a people, the people of Palestine. While the court did not literally call for ceasefire, all of the conditions the court ordered are descriptions of a ceasefire: stopping bombing of hospitals, schools and declared safety zones to name one.
    The US is a signatory, and main advocate, of the International Court and we need to follow their ruling or further erode rule based international conduct. Do we want to follow our own court’s order, or do we want to join the rogue states and just allow the whole world to fight it out with guns and bombs and see what’s left standing?
    We need to do our part and our elected officials need to do their part by calling for a ceasefire and to see to the immediate distribution of humanitarian aid to Palestinian civilians. We must do our part to stop the wider war that is threatening to envelope the entire Mideast.
    Thompson has shown he is quite tolerant of a war posture that impoverishes everyone. He positon on ceasefire is indicative of a person who is willing to fight for some of us, not all of us.

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  14. Roberta L. Millstein

    It is entirely irrational (to mimic your language) to think that Hamas can be a peace partner. Both their words AND deeds have shown otherwise. Arguably, Netanyahu is no peace partner either. People are working toward various possible political solutions. I don’t hold out much hope for one, but I think that our only hope lies there. There is no hope leaving Hamas intact, allowing them to regroup and commit another Oct 7 or worse. Leaving Hamas intact will not work for “all of us” unless “all of us” does not include Jews and Israelis.

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